New premium kit "First Flagship"

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On the "Premium" page there is a new kit for beginners "First Flagship" of three levels.
As the economy is an important part of our project, in order not to spoil it for our esteemed traders, we significantly inflated the prices for kits.  Now  to buy at the exchange is more profitable. However, unlike the stock exchange, flagships are delivered instantly, which is very important in some situations. Introducing the kits, we were guided by the possibility of a quick acquisition with the first flagships by beginners, but without spoiling the trade. Maximum you can buy 2 flagships.


Announce the change of  "Recycling" mission. From now on, the fleet can be sent for recycling with the option of avoiding the battle. If an enemy is found, it will be possible even with battle fleet to come out the battle by turning on the "aggression" parameter. The traditional parameter "auto return with 0 debris" can be changed when sending, and not only during the flight of the fleet.
28 August 2018 08:35:14
28 August 2018 08:35:14
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you spell wrong its not first flagman its first flagship New premium kit "First Flagship"
and why dont you make flagship kits for xerj account or toss ? 
why your prices is 3 times bigger then one we have in bestiary for same ships New premium kit "First Flagship"

here is price of space wanderer in bestiary http://prntscr.com/knoeqn and your price for new player http://prntscr.com/knofhh dont tell me your sw is special New premium kit "First Flagship"
28 August 2018 09:14:43
28 August 2018 09:14:43
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Ca_Du_,

they clearly said in the text above that the prices are higher to NOT ruin bestiary prices. Further the ships from the kits are delivered instantly to your planets. When you buy in the bestiary you have to wait for it.
I have flagship kits on my Xerj account available.
28 August 2018 14:28:29
28 August 2018 14:28:29
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Tii,

sorry - but when you believe the lies of the admins, you are an idi----t.
 

Vasya and his villains want more money.  They think the players are idiots - so they try to get some idiots to pay triple (or higher prices) for flagships.
 
Waiting for items of the bestiary is no problem.
 
Just plan a little ahead.


Apparently, Vasya's Russian street hookers have raised the prices for him again. So he tries to get more money from us.
 

Vasya uses always the same tricks to get players money.

With the time you will know them.
 
The biggest joke is that the number of items is limited.  He says more or less:  I want to trick you. But not for all your money. jajajaja


So - when you want a flagship:   Buy it in the bestiary for normal prices.

Don't buy from Vasya if you don't want to support Vasya's street whore addiction.

And for beginners:  Don't buy a flagship at all. The Russians are only waiting that you have one. And then they destroy it - which is easy for them.
 
 
So for beginners, Vasya's offer is double tricky.
 

And corrupt like he is, it is possible that he sells the information who bought such "cheap flagships" to his Russian friends.
Then they don't need to search much and he gets an extra blowjob.
28 August 2018 15:18:22
28 August 2018 15:18:22
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Reimund,

when you stop raging people could start taking you serious.

On the one hand I can understand your point of view. On the other hand I can't.

I can understand that it looks "strange" for you to offer flagships which are more expensive than the ones you could get through the bestiary. But you have to consider: They do not wanted to destroy the bestiary prices, even if this is not the main reason.

You also have to be aware that anything you spent and give to the admins is a "donation to the project". So you "can be glad they give you something at all".. - when you donate your money to charity you (personally) get less for it than here.
28 August 2018 16:38:05
28 August 2018 16:38:05
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So you wanna tell me admins think to not destroy prices of sw and other stuffs in bestiary ....they think so much of us merchants that they give new players so nice prices New premium kit "First Flagship"
you have to be glad that there is someone who want to play game coz players are ones to earn you money by buying ...we decide what we want not admins its game for players not for them.. i did spend 2k of hc to one day get up and see all my money go to trash so like i seen in past the administration hate us and try not to make us happy...New premium kit "First Flagship"
all they did is to make  meny players that spend hundreds of euros and meny years of playing just to delete accounts and if you tell anything to admins they block or ban your accounts.........................New premium kit "First Flagship"
28 August 2018 16:48:58
28 August 2018 16:48:58
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Tii, i would love to see if your thought of reasoning till now remains same after you play this game for over one year from now (i hope it remains same as you have now)  my best wishes to you tho. New premium kit "First Flagship"
28 August 2018 18:13:14
28 August 2018 18:13:14
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Tii,

it looks like you are a bigger Idi...ot than I thought.
Or in German we call it  "Arschkriecher".   Perhaps to get more green medals  ???    jajajaja


Prices in bestiary:    

They cannot be destroyed. They are determined by the fees which Vasya charges. And these fees are directly for him.

If Vasya really wants to support new players he could:

- offer the items 20% cheaper than in the bestiary

- only to players < 25k points

- limited to 2 items per player
This would be a fair offer.  Or what do you think?


Supporting the project:

this is a purely commercial project. Not an open source project or a non-profit organization.

It's the same as a Gas Station or a Super Market or Microsoft Corporation.


With your stupid argumentation, you would need also to

- pay triple prices at the gas station "to support the project"
- pay triple prices at the supermarket "to support the project"

- pay triple prices for Microsoft Software "to support the project"



Are you doing this?


I guess not.


So the motivation behind

- Vasya's offer is to get more money for him

- you defending him is to get more "Arschkriecher" medals


Right?
28 August 2018 18:53:09
28 August 2018 18:53:09
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You are doing it too because I am 100% sure the price for which the supermarket or gas station purchases it's stuff is much cheaper than what you pay for it.

I also think that flagships for player <25k are a horrible idea.
And who would buy things from the bestiary if the game offers it for cheaper? Noone would. So bestiary would be useless for those items then.

The description of the bestiary also says that the taken fee goes to the owner of the bestiary - not to vasya.. Further the fees for prices in the bestiary are given by an algorithm that considers the average price for items that currently are offered - I do not think vasya is sitting behind this one and says: "Aaah, today 20% more, tomorrow another 10% onto it".
28 August 2018 19:11:05
28 August 2018 19:11:05
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Tii, i don't agree at this. The description of the bestiary also says that the taken fee goes to the owner of the bestiary - not to vasya.. as the owner gets a small part of the loot that a seller puts on his bestiary not the HC the HC goes to the boss of this game that you we all know here New premium kit "First Flagship"
28 August 2018 19:18:20
28 August 2018 19:18:20
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I marked it for you - http://prntscr.com/knwe39
28 August 2018 19:22:11
28 August 2018 19:22:11
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what i want to say is that its a bad idea to buy the flagships kit if you are not powerful to defend it.
28 August 2018 19:23:16
28 August 2018 19:23:16
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Tii:

again wrong argumentation and no idea of how the game works.

You remind me of some idiots in Venezuela who still defend Chavez / Maduro socialism, although the people in the country with the highest oil reserves are starving..........


Gas station / Supermarket:

yes. they buy things cheaper and sell it for higher prices.  But they don't make "special offers" where they sell the potatoes for prices 3 x higher than normal in the hope to find the idiot of the day


Flagships to players < 25k:


 
- these are the people Vasya is targeting.  None of the experienced players will buy these overpriced flagships from Vasya.
  So whats your point?

- as hear that you are a tutor  ( omg -  these poor players who select you ):

   I agree that small players should wait with converting their medals into flagships until they are more experienced.
   But there is one thing they can do with some of them:   cheap fleetsave 
   Are you teaching them how to do this?


-  Commission fees:
    you can apply for a new green medal.  The text is wrong.  The HC go directly to Vasya. Ask Stein.

-  Prices in bestiary:

    Of course, he does it with an algorithm and not per hand. But in the end, he determines the prices.


It's really interesting how "Arschkriechers" change facts to support their argumentation.......................
 
28 August 2018 19:30:56
28 August 2018 19:30:56
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in other games we have 7 days protection  for new players here there is not that option so new guys that just start playing and let say get sw from quest become targets for bigger guys and after they lost all they left game ... administration dont protect you ...they dont give new players 10% more resources or some bonuses to make them easy grow New premium kit "First Flagship"... there is much options to make this game better New premium kit "First Flagship"

this 3 years i been playing xcraft they change all speed fuel cost productions they make officers so expencive ... they create some space stations bla bla ... no new attack fleet no new mines ... they change galaxy view ... why dont try something that will make players happy ...all they did was to strip our pockets and take all we have ..every new upgrade is one step back!New premium kit "First Flagship"
28 August 2018 19:32:45
28 August 2018 19:32:45
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Quote: Ca_Du_
Ca_Du
yes if you buy this flagships you grow in points and becomes a good flagship food for the big guns here to pray at you as all that will happened and there is no such things of 7 days protection as if you buy flagship you points goes up from 20k to 50k or higher then you become a target of 570k or higher and you have to defend against that.
28 August 2018 19:45:14
28 August 2018 19:45:14
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if i buy it i dont have any target to attack with it coz they make all pirates so small or open for every size player...why dont make pirates that can be attacked by 50 k players only...why you let us fight with some 10mil guys for few k of debrish
28 August 2018 19:51:37
28 August 2018 19:51:37
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Reimund,

and again you only insult / complain. I wouldn't wonder if you get banned to be honest.

You cannot directly compare the gas station thing to this. But often price raises in real shops are hidden behind discounts. so if they make something cheaper for 2 week they raise the price afterwards from what it was before. Would you prefer this method?!

Further the flagships weren't meant to be accessible by players of <25k points, for xerj even higher because you should've completed quest 8 before or bought "mega space kit 3".

Of course I teach everyone the things that are related to what they ask. You cannot spam everyone with all the infos instantly when they register.

I cannot say if the text is wrong. Can you? Do you own a bestiary? Can you make a video proof? If not it's useless to talk about because you could be as wrong as the text. Otherwise I now expect the proof.

And yes, of course the algorithm were written. But as far I can say it's fair and you can often get better / lower fees when offering smaller lots instead of 1 extremely large offer.
28 August 2018 19:52:03
28 August 2018 19:52:03
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Tii,

I'm pretty sure that you will make an "Arschkriecher" Request to ban me here.
I don't care.


1.)  As I can see these Flagship offers are available for new players. And as said, that's exactly the group which is targeted by Vasya.

2.)  Text of fees in bestiary.
      I've told you to ask Stein. She will explain you.
     Are you able to read what I write?


But I see you are running out of logical arguments.  So we better stop here. I think everything is said.
28 August 2018 20:09:57
28 August 2018 20:09:57
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Ca_Du_,how about you ask Vasya about that idea of yours to him and see what his reply to it.
28 August 2018 20:14:46
28 August 2018 20:14:46
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I will not make any requests of those kind. I'm able to handle you on my own.

1) Yes they are but it's a bug.

2) I read that. Stein told me to keep away from her. I will do that. Why you can't tell me?
28 August 2018 20:14:48
28 August 2018 20:14:48

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